Scotland – Class 81 – 85 “Roarers”
Thanks to Jim Burton and Alistair Bates for much of the gen
Main line electrification to Scotland didnt come until May 74 with 87005 working 1S45 0745 Liverpool/Manchester – Glas/Edin from Preston to Central on May 6th 1974. This late date means that the early withdrawn “roarers” never made it to Scotland and with some 84’s being withdrawn by 1977 its possible these also never worked a passenger train North of the border.
Class 81
81001 1M12 2225 Perth – Euston (ex Mossend) 120682
81001 caught fire at Lamington, South of Carstairs with 1S01 1115 Euston – Stirling Motorail 260883, last working.
81002 1Z27 0840 Edinburgh – Rhyl Mystex (Carstairs – Warr BQ) 050480
81003 1S39 0740 Poole – Glasgow/Edinburgh 151086
81004 1V58 2220 FO Glasgow/2210 FO Edinburgh – Paignton 200784
81005 1S07 2155 (8/8) Euston – Inverness/Ft Will. (to Moss. Yd) 090882
81006. 1S05 2050 (11/4) Euston – Inverness/FtWill. (to Moss.Yd.) 120482
81007 1V62 2345 (23/2) Glasgow/Edinburgh – Bristol 240286
81008 1020 Glasgow – Plymouth Relief 010486
Thanks to Glenn Jones for this view of 81009 arriving at Glasgow Central with an Inter Regional portion from the South on November 18th 1983
81009 1S67 0950 Birmingham NS – Edinburgh 140779
81010 1V60 (21/6) 2320 Glasgow/Edinburgh – Paignton 220685
81011 1V58 2220 FO Glasgow /2210 FO Edinburgh – Paignton 130784
81012 1M94 0913 SO Edinburgh – Blackpool (Carstairs – Preston) 290881
81012 1M15 2115 (23/3) Inverness-Euston 240390
probably the last class 81 hauled passenger train in Scotland
81013 1V73 0730 Aberdeen-Penzance (Carstairs – New St) 120786
81014 1S58 1430 SO Blackpool – Edinburgh (Preston – Carstairs) 140882
81015 1S58 1430 SO Blackpool – Edinburgh (Preston – Carstairs) 250781
81016 1M12 2225 Perth – Euston 280782
81017 1S85 0707 Plymouth-Glasgow/Edinburgh 150888
81018 1S23 2124 (1706) Bristol –Glasgow/Edinburgh 180683
81018 1M20 1110 Glasgow-Euston 040284
81019 1Z38 0915 Edinburgh – Birmingham New St. (running independently of Glasgow portion ) ex-Carstairs 140779
81020 1Z42 1258 Crewe – Glasgow Relief 220881
81021 1M94 0915 SO Edinburgh – Blackpool (Carstairs – Preston) 090680
81022 reverses the “emcars” of 1S61 0747 Cardiff – Glasgow out of Central to the bridge sidings at a wintry Glasgow on February 21st 1986
81022 1S61 0747 Cardiff-Glasgow 210286
Motherwell and Shields Road based locos incl class 81 received fish logos which survived from 1984 until final withdrawl bringing some River Clyde mythology right down to the buffer stops at Euston.
The Fish That Never Swam
The Glasgow city coat of arms always shows the fish with a ring held in its mouth. This is because a King of Strathclyde had given his wife a ring as a present. But the Queen gave it to a knight who promptly lost it. Some versions of the story say that the King took the ring while the knight was asleep and threw it in the river. The King then demanded to see the ring – threatening death to the Queen if she could not do so. The knight confessed to St Mungo who sent a monk to catch a fish in the river Clyde. When this was brought back St Mungo cut open the fish and found the ring. When the Bishop of Glasgow was designing his own seal around 1271, he used the illustration of a salmon with a ring in its mouth and this has come down to us in today’s coat of arms.
Class 82
82001 1S58 1430 FO Blackpool – Edinburgh (Preston – Carstairs) 150881
82002 Gourock – Euston rtn Merrymaker (ex Gourock, also shunt released at Glas C) 120574
82003 1M94 0915 SO Edinburgh – Blackpool (Carstairs – Preston) 070680
82004 1M40 1640 Glasgow/Edinburgh – Manchester/Liverpool 230878
82005 1Z15 1023 Glasgow/1015 Edinburgh – Preston Relief 250781
82006 1M26 1320 Glasgow/Edinburgh – Mancester/Liverpool 140680
82007 1S25 2235 (18/1) Euston – Inverness 190177
82008 1S84 1350 Birmingham NS – Glasgow 140881
Class 83
83001 1S49 0727 Nottingham – Glasgow 060882
83002 1Z37 0855 Edinburgh – Chester Mystex (Carstairs – Warrington BQ) 080576
83003 1M39 test train ex Glasgow C 260374
83004 1M10 2150 (26/8) Glasgow – Euston (drag into Crewe by 47448) 270878
83005 1S45 0753 Manchester/Liverpool – Glasgow/Edinburgh (ex Preston) 260282
83006 1M94 0915 SO Edinburgh – Blackpool (Carstairs – Preston) 220881
83007 1350 Birmingham – Glasgow relief 270882
83008 1S81 2050 Carlisle-Perth – 311080
83009 1V56 2340 Edinburgh/Glasgow – Bristol 291080
83010 1M53 0745 Aberdeen – Euston (via Birmingham) 190682
83011 1S05 2050 (14/7) Euston – Inverness 150780
83012 1M28 1035 Glasgow/1015 Edinburgh – Manchester/Lpl 100181
83013 1S18 2215 (3/7) Euston – Glasgow 040781
83014 1M12 2200 Perth – Euston 200680
83015 1S68 0940 SO Leicester-Glasgow (ex Carlisle) 260180
Class 84
84001 “Three Lochs Railtour” (Preston – Mossend) 170678
84002 New Mills – Edinburgh Adex (Wigan NW-Carstairs) 260579
84003 “Ayrshire n Galloway Railtour” Glasgow – Crewe 300978
84004-84007 —–
84008 1S19 2120 (12/6) Bristol – Glasgow/Edin 130679
84009 assist 1S29 2300(3/12) Euston – Glasgow (Murhat – Beattock) severe weather 041276
84010 1S81 2045 Carlisle – Perth 190680
Class 85
85001 1Z97 1410 Glasgow – Euston Relief 050485
85002 1Z10 1103 Birmingham NS – Inverness Relief (to Mossend) 301283
85003 1M21 0830 SO Glasgow – Blackpool 140882
85004 1M94.0846 SO Edinburgh – Blackpool (Carstairs – Preston) 270883
85005 1Z88 1025 Glasgow – Blackpool Relief 170481
85006 is photted by Glenn Jones with the Emcars of the 0732 Stranraer – Glasgow at Glasgow Central on March 10th 1984
85006 1M34 1210 Glasgow – Euston 060887
85007 1S45 0745 ManVic/Liverpool – Glasgow/Edinburgh 010486
85008 1Z15 0840 Edinburgh – Chester Mystex (Carstairs – Warrington BQ) 270382
85009 1M47 1715 Glasgow – Birmingham NS 05/04/86
85009 looking good prior to leaving Glasgow Central with the 0925 Birmingham service on March 28th 1986
85010 1O25 0920 Glasgow/0750 Dundee – Poole 170784
85011 1V90 1045 SO Glasgow/1034 SO Edinburgh – Paignton 110683
85012 1V58 2215 (21/6) Glasgow/Edinburgh – Paignton 220685
85013 1S85 0717 Harwich PQ – Glasgow/Edinburgh (ex Preston) 030884
85014 1M34 1310 Glasgow-Euston 250886
85015 1S62 1103 TThSO Birmingham NS – Aberdeen (to Mossend ) 060778
85016 1M47 1720 Glasgow – Birmingham NS 240686
85017 1S57 0945 Euston – Glasgow (vice failure S of Preston) 090486
85018 1S19 2124 (20/2) Bristol – Glasgow/Edinburgh 210286
85019 1Z46 1206 Bristol – Glasgow Relief 070486
85020 1V56 2355 Glasgow/Edinburgh – Bristol TM 200680
85021 1020 Glasgow – Plymouth Relief 270386
85022 1S39 0734 Poole – Glasgow 280386
85023 1M15 2030(16/10) Inverness – Euston 171087
85024 1S39 1205 Birmingham NS – Glasgow/Edinburgh 310380
85025 1S68 1020 Nott-Cen (ex Carlisle) 050881
85026 1S61 0650 Padd – Glasgow/Edin 020384
85027 1M94 0915 SO Edinburgh -Blackpool (Carstairs – Preston) 140680
85028 1S46 0930 Liverpool/Manchester – Glasgow/ Edinburgh 240784
85028 1M16 1930 (25/3) Inverness-Euston 260386
85029 1S67 1345 Liverpool/Mancester – Edinburgh/Glasgow
85030 1S58 1430 SO Blackpool – Edinburgh (Preston – Carstairs) 310782
85031 1S23 2140(16/8) Bristol – Glasgow/Edinburgh 170885
85032 1Z84 1055 Birmingham – Perth Relief (to Mossend, 40150 fwd) 160784
85033 1S81 2050 Carlisle – Perth 030383
85034 1Z14 0920 Edinburgh – Morecambe Mystex (Carstairs – Lancaster) 110982
85034 in fading light with Emcars for Polmadie CS on June 24th 1990
85035 (as 85109) 1S52 0559 Padd – Glasgow (ex Carlisle) 900xx failed 050791
probably the last “roarer” hauled passenger train in Scotland…..
85036 1M15 2030 (21/2) Inverness-Euston 220286
85037 1345 Glasgow – Euston Relief 240890
By August 1990 roarers were becoming uncommon at Glasgow Central, here 85037 awaits departure time with the 1345 Relief to Euston on August 24th 1990
85038 1S68 1020 Nottingham – Glasgow 130881
85039 1Z36 1403 Birmingham NS – Glasgow Relief 280680
85040 1S19 2125 (5/9) Bristol – Glasgow/Edin 060986
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