Saturday 26th January 1980
45114 07.10 Derby – St. Pancras Bedford – St. Pancras 49.75
50043 10.30 Paddington – Paignton Paddington – Reading 36
47448 or 50038 09.07 Brighton – Manchester Reading – Oxford 27.5
31209 09.24 Manchester – Poole Oxford – Reading 27.5
47157 11.40 Poole – Leeds / Newcastle Reading – Oxford 27.5
47456 11.22 Liverpool – Paddington Oxford – Reading 27.5
47448 or 50038 15.00 Paddington – Oxford Reading – Oxford 27.5
47502 14.38 Birmingham NS – Paddington Oxford – Paddington 63.5
45143 18.12 St. Pancras – Derby St. Pancras – Bedford 49.75
Notes:
Looking at Phil’s haulages between Reading and Oxford and vice versa, again there is some matching up to do.
Dealing with Reading – Oxford, I have 47157, 47448 and 50038. 47157 is listed on Railgen-Archive for 1E63 11.40 Poole – Leeds / Newcastle between Reading and Birmingham, and 47448 is listed for 1M50 09.07 Brighton – Manchester. 50038 must have done 1C40 15.00 Paddington – Hereford.
Dealing with Oxford – Reading, I have 31209 and 47456. 31209 is listed on Railgen-Archive for 1O15 09.24 Manchester – Poole between Birmingham NS and Reading. 47456 must have done 1V41 11.22 Liverpool – Paddington.
Thursday 7th February 1980
45102 06.50 Derby – St. Pancras Bedford – St. Pancras 49.75
7166 10.40 Victoria – Ramsgate Victoria – Ramsgate (Via Faversham) 79.25
7869 11.30 Charing Cross – Margate (Via Ashford) Ramsgate – Margate 5.5
7013 14.13 Ramsgate – Victoria Margate – Victoria (Via Faversham) 73.75
45126 17.00 St. Pancras – Bedford St. Pancras – Bedford 49.75
Saturday 23rd February 1980
31169 04.00 Liverpool St. – Norwich (Via Cambridge) Cambridge – Norwich 68.5
51124+56130 08.50 Norwich – Yarmouth Norwich – Acle 10.5
31263 08.58 Yarmouth – Liverpool St. Acle – Norwich 10.5
47255 08.58 Yarmouth – Liverpool St. Norwich – Ipswich 46.25
47115 09.30 Liverpool St. – Norwich Ipswich – Norwich 46.25
47085 12.00 Norwich – Liverpool St. (Via Cambridge) Norwich – Bishops Stortford 94
47255 13.36 Liverpool St. – Cambridge Bishops Stortford – Audley End 11.5
37022 14.05 Liverpool St. – Cambridge Audley End – Cambridge 14
31113 14.36 Liverpool St. – Kings Lynn Cambridge – Ely 14.75
37047 16.00 Kings Lynn – Liverpool St. Ely – Cambridge 14.75
37023 16.36 Liverpool St. – Kings Lynn Cambridge – Ely 14.75
31113 17.30 Kings Lynn – Liverpool St. Ely – Cambridge 14.75
37034 18.50 Cambridge – Liverpool St. Cambridge – Audley End 14
37115 18.36 Liverpool St. – Kings Lynn Audley End – Ely 28.75
51294+56114 19.28 Peterborough – Cambridge Ely – Cambridge 14.75
47085 19.35 Liverpool St. – Cambridge (Extended to Norwich) Cambridge – Norwich 68.5
47085 23.15 Norwich – Liverpool St. (Via Cambridge) Norwich – Cambridge 68.5
Notes:
With reference to 47085, this worked a 12.00 Norwich – Liverpool St. 19.36 Liverpool St. – Norwich (20.53 off Cambridge), and a 23.15 Norwich – Liverpool St. This is due to engineering work on the mainline south of Ipswich. I assume this engineering work started around 12.00. 47155 and 47162 also worked via this route. Gen from Class 47 list and RailGen Archive.
Saturday 1st March 1980
31160 04.00 Liverpool St. – Norwich (Via Cambridge) Cambridge – Norwich 68.5
51260+56436 08.50 Norwich – Yarmouth Norwich – Acle 10.5
31113 08.58 Yarmouth – Liverpool St. Acle – Norwich 10.5
47180 08.58 Yarmouth – Liverpool St. Norwich – Ipswich 46.25
47085 09.30 Liverpool St. – Norwich Ipswich – Norwich 46.25
37115 11.42 Norwich – Liverpool St. Norwich – Ipswich 46.25
37025 12.40 Harwich PQ – Peterborough Ipswich – March 66.5
50024+56004 12.40 Doncaster – Cambridge (Via Lincoln, Sleaford, Spalding)
March – Cambridge 30.5
31106 16.11 Cambridge – Liverpool St. Cambridge – Newport 16.25
31321 16.05 Liverpool St. – Cambridge Newport – Cambridge 16.25
31309 16.36 Liverpool St. – Kings Lynn Cambridge – Ely 14.75
31243 17.30 Kings Lynn – Liverpool St. Ely – Cambridge 14.75
31321 18.50 Cambridge – Liverpool St. Cambridge – Audley End 14
47184 18.36 Liverpool St. – Kings Lynn Audley End – Cambridge 14
Notes:
The 1979/1980 shows a 16.20 Cambridge – Liverpool St., first stop Audley End. Phil has this train logged as 16.11 ex Cambridge and booked same time at Newport (16.40). Maybe a Winter alteration with the train retimed and additional stops put in at Shelford, Whittlesford and Great Chesterford.
Phil has 37115 and 47180 both listed for Norwich – Ipswich. 37115 is listed on Railgen-Archive for 1N27 11.42 Norwich – Liverpool St. and 47180 is shown for 1K23 08.58 Yarmouth – Liverpool St. from Norwich.
Thursday 3rd April 1980
45124 10.05 Derby – St. Pancras Bedford – St. Pancras 49.75
31195 13.36 Liverpool St. – Cambridge Liverpool St. – Audley End 41.75
37051 14.39 Cambridge – Liverpool St. Audley End – Liverpool St. 41.75
31192 Liverpool St. (16.23) – Manningtree (17.29) Liverpool St. – Manningtree 59.5
37102 16.30 Liverpool St. – Norwich Manningtree – Ipswich 9.25
47162 17.42 Norwich – Liverpool St. Ipswich – Liverpool St. 68.75
81020 20.50 Euston – Inverness Euston – Rugby 82.5
310056 21.20 Birmingham NS – Euston Rugby – Bletchley (Via Northampton) 38.25
86028 22.35 Euston – Perth Bletchley – Mossend Yard 344.25
Friday 4th April 1980
40075 22.35 (PN) Euston – Perth Mossend Yard – Stirling 26.5
51464+59690+51802 06.47 Dunblane – Glasgow QS Stirling – Larbert 8
27021 06.40 Glasgow QS – Dundee Larbert – Dunblane 13.5
47045 07.05 Perth – Edinburgh Dunblane – Edinburgh 41.25
55007 08.50 Edinburgh – Aberdeen Edinburgh – Haymarket 1.25
40064 09.15 Edinburgh – Carstairs Haymarket – Carstairs
(Portion for the 09.23 Glasgow – Birmingham NS) 26.5
47701 07.37 Liverpool – Edinburgh Carstairs – Edinburgh 27.75
47434 05.50 Kings Cross – Aberdeen Edinburgh – Kirkcaldy 26
26033 12.47 Edinburgh – Perth Kirkcaldy – Perth (Via Ladybank) 31
26025 or 27014 or 47053 12.44 Glasgow QS – Dundee Perth – Dundee 20.75
26044 or 27017 Dundee (15.01) – Perth (15.28) Dundee – Perth 20.75
26025 or 27014 or 47053 14.44 Glasgow QS – Dundee Perth – Dundee 20.75
26044 or 27017 17.15 Dundee – Perth Dundee – Perth 20.75
26025 or 27014 or 47053 16.54 Glasgow QS – Dundee Perth – Dundee 20.75
40019 Dundee (18.45) – Montrose (19.33) Dundee – Montrose 31.75
27009 19.49 Aberdeen – Glasgow QS Montrose – Perth 51.5
40033 22.20 Perth – Euston Perth – Mossend Yard 59.25
Notes:
Unable to confirm which services were worked by which locomotives between Perth and Dundee. Also the 15.01 Dundee – Perth seems a mystery as I cannot find a match in the GBTT. Details as per Phil’s notes.
Saturday 5th April 1980
81015 22.20 (PN) Perth – Euston Mossend Yard – Euston 390.75
87003 07.40 Euston – Shrewsbury Euston – Birmingham NS 113.25
45019 07.30 Swansea – Leeds Birmingham NS – Leeds 118.5
47404 11.05 Liverpool – York Leeds – York (At least 30 late) 25.25
55008 07.25 Plymouth – Edinburgh York – Newcastle 79.5
50205+56375 15.53 Newcastle – Sunderland Newcastle – Sunderland 12.5
31101 16.56 Sunderland – Newcastle (Footex) Sunderland – Seaburn 1.5
37076 xx.xx Sunderland – Newcastle (Footex) Seaburn – Newcastle 11
43071+43104 15.00 Kings Cross – Aberdeen Newcastle – Edinburgh 124.5
55002 20.40 Edinburgh – Kings Cross Edinburgh – Kings Cross 393.25
Notes:
Phil has the following times logged for the footex’s. 31101 Sunderland 16.56, Seaburn 17.01. 37076 Seaburn 17.13, Newcastle 17.39.
Sunday April 6th 1980
33108 08.54 Waterloo – Exeter Waterloo – Gillingham 105.5
33010 09.50 Exeter – Waterloo Gillingham – Basingstoke 57.75
33111 (+408) 12.08 Portsmouth Harbour – Reading Basingstoke – Reading 15.5
47069 13.30 Paddington – Swansea Reading – Newport (Via Gloucester) 122.5
45034 15.55 Cardiff – Newcastle Newport – Birmingham NS
(Via Chepstow & Gloucester) 99.25
31213 18.37 Birmingham NS – Norwich Birmingham NS – Peterborough 91.5
55006 19.11 York – Kings Cross Peterborough – Kings Cross 76.25
86027 23.35 Euston – Perth Euston – Mossend Yard 390.75
Notes:
47069 diverted due to engineering work. GBTT shows the service as 14.10, but Phil has it logged as 14.07 from Reading, booked time from Newport.
Monday 7th April 1980
40060 23.35 (PN) Euston – Perth Mossend Yard – Stirling 26.25
27041 06.40 Glasgow QS – Dundee Stirling – Dunblane 5.5
27032 06.57 Dundee – Glasgow QS Dunblane – Larbert 13.75
51461+59047+51481 07.50 Edinburgh – Stirling Larbert – Stirling 8.25
26033 07.38 Dundee – Glasgow QS Stirling – Larbert 8.25
51234+59048+50747 Larbert (09.03) – Edinburgh (09.47) Larbert – Edinburgh 28.25
55005 09.50 Edinburgh – Plymouth Edinburgh – Newcastle 124.75
55015 1E70 10.37 Aberdeen – Kings Cross (Relief) Newcastle – Kings Cross 268.5
45117 20.15 St. Pancras – Derby St. Pancras – Bedford 49.75
Notes:
DMU set 51234 – nothing matches in the GBTT. Assumed a revised service in operation as this was a Bank Holiday.
55015’s train details taken from “Chronicles of Napier”. Phil has the times listed as Newcastle 15.34, Kings Cross 19.45.
Saturday 31st May 1980
31229 04.00 Liverpool St. – Norwich (Via Cambridge) Cambridge – Norwich 68.5
51294+56114 08.50 Norwich – Yarmouth (Via Acle) Norwich – Lingwood 8
31173 09.00 Yarmouth – Liverpool St. Lingwood – Norwich 8
31229+31326 09.50 Norwich – Birmingham NS Norwich – Thetford 30.5
31313 08.05 Birmingham NS – Norwich Thetford – Norwich 30.5
31250 08.35 Derby – Yarmouth Norwich – Yarmouth (Via Acle) 18.5
25124+25135 14.15 Yarmouth – Derby Yarmouth – Norwich (Via Acle) 18.5
25127+25219 14.15 Yarmouth – Derby Norwich – March 69.5
25301 16.45 Norwich – Peterborough March – Peterborough 15.75
47017 15.15 Manchester – Harwich PQ Peterborough – Ely 30.5
50594+56186 19.25 Ely – Cambridge Ely – Cambridge 14.75
Sunday 27th July 1980
31220 18.20 Peterborough – Kings Cross Sandy – Biggleswade 2.75
31405 18.30 Kings Cross – Peterborough Biggleswade – Sandy 2.75
Sunday 3rd August 1980
51604+59608+59622+51620 08.15 Bedford – St. Pancras Bedford – St. Pancras 49.75
50008 11.10 Waterloo – Exeter Waterloo – Gillingham 105.5
50049 12.25 Exeter – Waterloo Gillingham – Basingstoke 57.75
33112 (+401) 14.08 Portsmouth Harbour – Reading Basingstoke – Reading 15.5
47280 11.09 Manchester – Paddington Reading – Paddington 36
47004 17.30 Liverpool St. – Yarmouth Liverpool St. – Colchester 51.75
47278 18.20 Ipswich – Liverpool St. Colchester – Liverpool St. 51.75
81007 23.35 Euston – Perth Euston – Mossend Yard 390.75
Monday 4th August 1980
47432 23.35 (PN) Euston – Perth Mossend Yard – Stirling 26.25
37027 06.40 Glasgow QS – Dundee Stirling – Dunblane 5.5
26019 07.05 Perth – Edinburgh Dunblane – Stirling 5.5
27002 or 27020 06.49 Dundee – Glasgow QS Stirling – Larbert 8.25
50749+59567+51473 07.49 Edinburgh – Dunblane Larbert – Stirling 8.25
27002 or 27020 07.39 Dundee – Glasgow QS Stirling – Larbert 8.25
50158+59578+51244 08.25 Perth – Edinburgh Larbert – Edinburgh 28.25
47712 10.15 Edinburgh – Carstairs Edinburgh – Carstairs
(Portion for 10.35 Glasgow – Manchester Vic / Liverpool 27.75
47207 11.23 Carstairs – Edinburgh Carstairs – Edinburgh
(Portion off 07.37 Liverpool – Glasgow) 27.75
47519 05.50 Kings Cross – Aberdeen Edinburgh – Kirkcaldy 26
26010 12.48 Edinburgh – Perth Kirkcaldy – Perth (Via Ladybank) 31
40103 13.35 Glasgow QS – Aberdeen Perth – Dundee 20.75
40184 13.40 Aberdeen – Glasgow QS Dundee – Perth 20.75
26028 or 27034 14.44 Glasgow QS – Dundee Perth – Dundee 20.75
27010 17.15 Dundee – Perth Dundee – Perth 20.75
26028 or 27034 16.54 Glasgow QS – Dundee Perth – Dundee 20.75
47211 17.35 Glasgow QS – Aberdeen Dundee – Montrose 31.25
47519 19.25 Aberdeen – Kings Cross Montrose – Dundee 31.25
40117 19.50 Aberdeen – Glasgow QS Perth – Dundee 20.75
25065+25084 22.20 Perth – Euston Perth – Mossend Yard 59.25
Notes:
Phil’s haulages between Perth and Dundee and vice versa proved a bit of a puzzle to match up.
Dealing with Perth to Dundee first, I know the three locomotives involved, 26028, 27034 and 40103 and I know the three services used, from his diary file. I can match 40103 from the “gen” on Railgen Archive, but I cannot prove which type 2 worked the 14.44 Glasgow QS – Dundee and which type 2 did the 16.54 Glasgow QS – Dundee.
Looking at Dundee – Perth, the three locomotives involved were 27010, 40117 and 40184, and again I know the three services involved. 40117 is shown on Railgen Archive for 1M53 09.25 Aberdeen – Birmingham NS, which I assume it worked to Mossend Yard. I am also assuming it went back north on 1S62 11.03 Birmingham NS – Aberdeen (due 18.25), which would in theory put it in place for Phil to have it on the 19.50 Aberdeen – Glasgow QS. 40184 is on Railgen Archive for 1A21 07.40 Glasgow – Aberdeen, and I assume this worked back with 1T35 13.40 Aberdeen – Glasgow QS, like 40058 did the following day on Railgen Archive. 27010 by a process of elimination must have been on the 17.15 Dundee – Perth.
Tuesday 5th August 1980
81001 22.20 (PN) Perth – Euston Mossend Yard – Euston 390.75
47109 09.27 Paddington – Fishguard Harbour Paddington – Fishguard Harbour 261.25
47109 14.50 Fishguard Harbour – Swansea Fishguard Harbour – Swansea 72.5
43040+43041 17.45 Swansea – Paddington Swansea – Paddington 191
81012 22.35 Euston – Perth Euston – Mossend Yard 390.75
Wednesday 6th August 1980
47469 22.35 (PN) Euston – Perth Mossend Yard – Stirling 26.25
37111 06.40 Glasgow QS – Dundee Stirling – Dunblane 5.5
40117 07.05 Perth – Edinburgh Dunblane – Stirling 5.5
40060 06.49 Dundee – Glasgow QS Stirling – Larbert 8.25
51474+59047+51976 07.49 Edinburgh – Dunblane Larbert – Stirling 8.25
50158+59578+51244 08.25 Perth – Edinburgh Stirling – Edinburgh 36.5
47702 10.15 Edinburgh – Carstairs Edinburgh – Carstairs
(Portion for 10.35 Glasgow – Manchester Vic / Liverpool 27.75
47536 11.23 Carstairs – Edinburgh Carstairs – Edinburgh
(Portion off 07.37 Liverpool – Glasgow) 27.75
47431 05.50 Kings Cross – Aberdeen Edinburgh – Kirkcaldy 26
26018 12.48 Edinburgh – Perth Kirkcaldy – Perth (Via Ladybank) 31
25090 or 40060 0r 47435 13.35 Glasgow QS – Aberdeen Perth – Dundee 20.75
26038 or 40103 or 47206 13.40 Aberdeen – Glasgow QS Dundee – Perth 20.75
25090 or 40060 or 47435 14.44 Glasgow QS – Dundee Perth – Dundee 20.75
26038 or 40103 or 47206 17.15 Dundee – Perth Dundee – Perth 20.75
25090 or 40060 or 47435 16.54 Glasgow QS – Dundee Perth – Dundee 20.75
47009 17.35 Glasgow QS – Aberdeen Dundee – Montrose 31.25
40081 19.25 Aberdeen – Kings Cross Montrose – Dundee 31.25
26038 or 40103 or 47435 19.50 Aberdeen – Glasgow QS Dundee – Perth 20.75
37054 22.20 Perth – Euston Perth – Mossend Yard 59.25
Notes:
Phil’s haulages between Perth and Dundee and vice versa proved to be a bit more of a puzzle than Monday 4th August. Again I know the locomotives and the services involved but this time there was nothing listed on the various gen sites.
Thursday 7th August 1980
86254 22.20 (PN) Perth – Euston Mossend Yard – Euston 390.75
37039 09.36 Liverpool St. – Cambridge Liverpool St. – Audley End 41.75
31313 10.05 Liverpool St. – Cambridge Audley End – Cambridge 14
31244 10.36 Liverpool St. – Kings Lynn Cambridge – Ely 14.75
37102 11.30 Kings Lynn – Liverpool St. Ely – Cambridge 14.75
31313 12.39 Cambridge – Liverpool St. Cambridge – Audley End 14
37084 13.27 Cambridge – Liverpool St. Audley End – Liverpool St. 41.75
47117 15.30 Liverpool St. – Yarmouth Liverpool St. – Ipswich 68.75
47160 16.29 Norwich – Liverpool St. Ipswich – Liverpool St. 68.75
81014 21.50 Euston – Fort William / Inverness Euston – Mossend Yard 390.75
Friday 8th August 1980
47210 21.50 (PN) Euston – Fort William Mossend Yard – Cowlairs West Jn. 12.75
26034 21.50 (PN) Euston – Fort William Cowlairs Jn. – Glasgow QS 1.75
27014 06.00 Glasgow QS – Mallaig Glasgow QS – Tulloch 104.75
27041 06.00 Glasgow QS – Mallaig Tulloch – Fort William
(Assisitng 27014) 18.25
27041 06.00 Glasgow QS – Mallaig Fort William – Mallaig 41.75
27041 12.52 Mallaig – Glasgow QS Mallaig – Fort William 41.75
27018 12.52 Mallaig – Glasgow QS Fort William – Glasgow QS 122.75
40167 19.35 Glasgow QS – Aberdeen Glasgow QS – Dundee 82.75
40058 Banker to 40167. Glasgow QS – Cowlairs Jn. 1.75
40060 19.50 Aberdeen – Glasgow QS Dundee – Perth 20.75
40184 22.20 Perth – Euston Perth – Mossend Yard 59.25
Saturday 9th August 1980
81014 22.20 (PN) Perth – Euston Mossend Yard – Euston 390.75
45062 08.13 St. Pancras – Derby St. Pancras – Bedford 49.75
Saturday 13th September 1980
51297+56439 08.41 Bishops Stortford – Ely Cambridge – Ely 14.75
31273 08.58 Peterborough – Yarmouth Ely – Thetford 23.25
31205+31305 09.50 Norwich – Birmingham NS Thetford – March 39
25278+25303 08.00 Walsall – Yarmouth March (crew change 11.22) – Norwich 69.5
31261 12.52 Yarmouth – Peterborough Norwich – Ely 54.75
31194 12.40 Harwich PQ – Peterborough Ely – Peterborough 30.5
31161 13.15 Birmingham NS – Norwich Peterborough – March 14.75
50376+56186 15.37 Peterborough – Cambridge March – Ely 15.75
37011 16.00 Kings Lynn – Liverpool St. Ely – Cambridge 14.75
31217 17.26 Cambridge – Liverpool St. Cambridge – Audley End 14
31309 17.36 Liverpool St. – Cambridge Audley End – Cambridge 14
Saturday 27th September 1980
51290+56458 08.13 Cambridge – Peterborough Cambridge – March 30.5
47579 07.17 Harwich PQ – Manchester Pic. March – Peterborough 14.75
31326 08.05 Birmingham NS – Norwich Peterborough – March 14.75
25117+25178 08.00 Walsall – Yarmouth March (crew change 11.22) – Norwich 69.5
31262 13.16 Norwich – Birmingham NS Norwich – March 69.5
37035 12.40 Harwich PQ – Peterborough March – Peterborough 14.75
31293 13.15 Birmingham NS – Norwich Peterborough – March 14.75
50376+56186 15.37 Peterborough – Cambridge March – Ely 15.75
37051or 37110 16.00 Kings Lynn – Liverpool St. Ely – Cambridge 14.75
37033 16.36 Cambridge – Kings Lynn Cambridge – Ely 14.75
37051or 37110 17.30 Kings Lynn – Liverpool St. Ely – Cambridge 14.75
Notes:
Unable to confirm which locomotive worked which service.
Sunday 28th September 1980
47443 09.45 Manchester Pic. – St. Pancras Bedford – St. Pancras 49.75
47060 17.05 Paddington – Liverpool Paddington – Reading 36
47509 16.25 Hereford – Paddington Reading – Paddington 36
73127 20.05 Waterloo – Weymouth Quay Waterloo – Basingstoke 47.75
50021 18.25 Exeter – Waterloo Basingstoke – Waterloo 47.75
86032 23.35 Euston – Perth Euston – Mossend Yard 390.75
Monday 29th September 1980
47544 23.35 (PN) Euston – Perth Mossend Yard – Stirling 26.25
27105 06.40 Glasgow QS – Dundee Stirling – Dunblane 5.5
40158 06.49 Dundee – Glasgow QS Dunblane – Larbert 13.75
50160+59045+51253 07.49 Edinburgh – Dunblane Larbert – Stirling 8.25
40038 07.39 Dundee – Glasgow QS Stirling – Larbert 8.25
50239+59578+51244 08.25 Perth – Edinburgh Larbert – Edinburgh 28.25
47009 10.15 Edinburgh – Carstairs Edinburgh – Carstairs
(Portion for 10.35 Glasgow – Manchester Vic / Liverpool 27.75
47707 11.23 Carstairs – Edinburgh Carstairs – Edinburgh
(Portion off 07.37 Liverpool – Glasgow) 27.75
47427 05.50 Kings Cross – Aberdeen Edinburgh – Kirkcaldy 26
26034 12.48 Edinburgh – Perth Kirkcaldy – Perth (Via Ladybank) 31
27001 or 40158 or 47274 13.35 Glasgow QS – Aberdeen Perth – Dundee 20.75
40038 or 40160 15.58 Dundee – Glasgow QS Dundee – Perth 20.75
27001 or 40158 or 47274 15.35 Glasgow QS – Aberdeen Perth – Dundee 20.75
50243+59067+51224 17.33 Dundee – Glasgow QS Dundee – Perth 20.75
27001 or 40158 or 47274 16.54 Glasgow QS – Dundee Perth – Dundee 20.75
40165 17.35 Glasgow QS – Aberdeen Dundee – Arbroath 17.5
47521 19.25 Aberdeen – Kings Cross Arbroath – Dundee 17.5
40038 or 40160 19.50 Aberdeen – Glasgow QS Dundee – Perth 20.75
26024+27029 22.20 Perth – Euston Perth – Mossend Yard 59.25
Notes:
Once again, Phil’s haulages between Perth and Dundee and vice versa proved a bit of a puzzle to match up.
Dealing with Perth to Dundee first, I know the three locomotives involved, 27001, 40158, and 47274 and I know the three services used, from his diary file. I can’t prove which locomotive did which train, although I would guess the type 2 did the 16.54 Glasgow QS – Dundee rather than an Aberdeen train.
Looking at Dundee – Perth, the two locomotives involved were 40038 and 40160 and a third service involving a DMU. Phil has the DMU shown on his records for 2T46 17.33 Dundee – Glasgow QS, which in theory would have been loco hauled. Again I am unable to prove from the Gen sites which loco worked which train.
Tuesday 30th September 1980
83005 22.20 (PN) Perth – Euston Mossend Yard – Euston 390.75
47204 07.45 Paddington – Weston Super Mare Paddington – Bath Spa 107
31424 or 33004 07.46 Portsmouth Harbour – Cardiff Bath Spa – Bristol TM 11.5
33002 or 33009 11.00 Bristol TM – Portsmouth Harbour Bristol TM – Bath Spa 11.5
31424 or 33004 09.00 Weymouth – Bristol TM Bath Spa – Bristol TM 11.5
46056 or 47091 10.28 Taunton – Birmingham NS Bristol TM – Birmingham NS
(Via Worcester Shrub Hill) 89.5
47422 10.08 Newcastle – Cardiff Birmingham NS – Newport 99.25
31424 16.00 Cardiff – Portsmouth Harbour Newport – Bristol TM 26.5
33002 or 33009 16.00 Cardiff – Portsmouth Harbour Bristol TM – Bath Spa 11.5
50023 16.20 Paddington – Bristol TM Bath Spa – Bristol TM 11.5
31419 16.15 Portsmouth Harbour – Cardiff Bristol TM – Newport 26.5
51580+59586+51589 19.50 Cardiff – Bristol TM Newport – Bristol TM 26.5
46056 or 47091 21.30 Bristol TM – Glasgow Bristol TM – Birmingham NS 89.5
37207+37224 Bankers Bromsgrove – Blackwell 2.25
85040 21.30 Bristol TM – Glasgow Birmingham NS – Glasgow 296
Notes:
Looking at Phil’s haulages between Bath Spa and Bristol TM and vice versa, again there is some matching up to do.
Dealing with Bath Spa – Bristol TM, I have 31424, 33004 and 50023. 50023 is an obvious for 1B12 16.20 Paddington – Bristol TM. I would suggest that it is probable that 33004 worked 1V21 07.46 Portsmouth Harbour – Cardiff and 31424 worked 2V59 09.00 Weymouth – Bristol TM based on what normally worked these trains.
Regarding Bristol TM – Bath Spa, I am unable to confirm which loco (33002 or 33009) worked which train. I am also unable to confirm the workings for 46056 and 47091.
Wednesday 1st October 1980
27034 06.40 Glasgow QS – Dundee Glasgow QS – Dunblane 34.5
20118 Banker Glasgow QS – Cowlairs West Jn. 1.75
40148 07.05 Perth – Edinburgh Dunblane – Stirling 5.5
27001 or 27021 06.49 Dundee – Glasgow QS Stirling – Larbert 8.25
51448+59545+51525 07.49 Edinburgh – Dunblane Larbert – Stirling 8.25
27001 or 27021 07.39 Dundee – Glasgow QS Stirling – Larbert 8.25
37027 08.44 Glasgow QS – Dundee Larbert – Stirling 8.25
26014+26021 09.05 Glasgow QS – Inverness Stirling – Perth 33.5
26034 11.05 Perth – Edinburgh Perth – Haymarket (Via Ladybank) 55.75
47415 05.50 Kings Cross – Aberdeen Haymarket – Kirkcaldy 24.75
26034 12.48 Edinburgh – Perth Kirkcaldy – Perth (Via Ladybank) 31
40060 13.35 Glasgow QS – Aberdeen Perth – Dundee 20.75
26041 or 27021 or 40066 15.58 Dundee – Glasgow QS Dundee – Perth 20.75
47274 15.35 Glasgow QS – Aberdeen Perth – Dundee 20.75
26041 or 27021 or 40066 17.15 Dundee – Perth Dundee – Perth 20.75
37027 16.54 Glasgow QS – Dundee Perth – Dundee 20.75
06002 Shunt release Dundee station. 0.5
40158 17.35 Glasgow QS – Aberdeen Dundee – Montrose 31.25
47011 19.25 Aberdeen – Kings Cross Montrose – Dundee 31.25
26041 or 27021 or 40066 19.50 Aberdeen – Glasgow QS Perth – Dundee 20.75
40165 22.20 Perth – Euston Perth – Mossend Yard 59.25
Notes:
Perth – Dundee notes again.
Dealing with Perth – Dundee first. The three locomotives involved were 37027, 40060 and 47274. RailGen Archive confirms 37027 on 2L53 16.54 Glasgow QS – Dundee, and has 40060 on 1T50 17.50 Aberdeen – Glasgow QS. I have assumed from that 40060 must have done 1A36 13.35 Glasgow – Aberdeen (due 16.30). By elimination 47274 must be 1A49 15.35 Glasgow QS – Aberdeen.
Dundee – Perth, the three locomotives are 26041, 27021 and 40066. Unable to prove anything, but a fair assumption would be 40066 on 1T58 19.50 Aberdeen – Glasgow QS, with the type 2’s working the other services.
Thursday 2nd October 1980
83013 22.20 (PN) Perth – Euston Mossend Yard – Euston 390.75
47526 08.00 Paddington – Worcester Shrub Hill Paddington – Reading 36
43030+43031 08.20 Paddington – Bristol TM Reading – Bath Spa 71
47344 07.45 Paddington – Weston Super Mare Bath Spa – Bristol TM
(At least 20 late) 11.5
31401 or 33002 or 33004 11.00 Bristol TM – Portsmouth Harbour Bristol TM – Bath Spa 11.5
31258 or 33027 09.00 Weymouth – Bristol TM Bath Spa – Bristol TM 11.5
47032 or 47508 10.28 Taunton – Birmingham NS Bristol TM – Birmingham NS
(Via Worcester Shrub Hill) 89.5
47437 10.08 Newcastle – Cardiff Birmingham NS – Cheltenham 48
47478 12.23 Manchester Pic – Bristol TM Cheltenham – Bristol TM 43.5
31401 or 33002 or 33004 16.14 Bristol TM – Weymouth Bristol TM – Bath Spa 11.5
31258 or 33027 14.15 Portsmouth Harbour – Bristol TM Bath Spa – Bristol TM
(At least 10 late) 11.5
31401 or 33002 or 33004 16.00 Cardiff – Portsmouth Harbour Bristol TM – Bath Spa 11.5
47344 16.20 Paddington – Bristol TM Bath Spa – Bristol TM. 11.5
31419 16.15 Portsmouth Harbour – Cardiff Bristol TM – Newport 26.5
51057+59414+51100 19.50 Cardiff – Bristol TM Newport – Bristol TM 26.5
47032 or 47508 21.30 Bristol TM – Glasgow Bristol TM – Birmingham NS 89.5
37207+37224 Bankers Bromsgrove – Blackwell 2.25
86210 21.30 Bristol TM – Glasgow Birmingham NS – Glasgow 296
Notes:
Looking at Phil’s haulages between Bath Spa and Bristol TM and vice versa, again there is some matching up to do.
Dealing with Bath Spa – Bristol TM, I have 31258, 33027 and 47344. 47344 is an obvious for the two Paddington departures (partly as it is in his logs twice). I would suspect that 31258 worked 2V59 09.00 Weymouth – Bristol TM and 33027 worked 1V29 14.15 Portsmouth Harbour – Bristol TM based on what normally worked these trains.
Dealing with Bristol TM – Bath Spa, I have 31401, 33002 and 33004. I suspect that 31401 worked 2O60 16.14 Bristol TM – Weymouth and the 33’s worked 1O73 11.00 Bristol TM – Portsmouth, and 1O87 16.00 Cardiff – Portsmouth, although I have no idea which 33 did which train.
I am also unable to confirm the workings for 47032 and 47508.
Friday 3rd October 1980
27040 06.40 Glasgow QS – Dundee Glasgow QS – Dunblane 34.5
27105 Banker Glasgow QS – Cowlairs West Jn. 1.75
47268 07.05 Perth – Edinburgh Dunblane – Stirling 5.5
27008 06.49 Dundee – Glasgow QS Stirling – Larbert 8.25
51455+59559+51538 07.49 Edinburgh – Dunblane Larbert – Stirling 8.25
26033 07.39 Dundee – Glasgow QS Stirling – Glasgow QS 29
86259 10.35 Glasgow – Manchester Vic Glasgow – Carlisle 102.25
86260 11.23 Glasgow – Birmingham NS Carlisle – Crewe 141
47462 13.00 Euston – Holyhead Crewe – Chester 21
51176+56360 13.45 Holyhead – Crewe Chester – Crewe 21
86255 16.05 Liverpool – Euston Crewe – Watford Junction 140.5
87024 16.12 Manchester – Euston Watford Junction – Euston 17.5
73004 20.05 Waterloo – Weymouth Quay Waterloo – Basingstoke 47.75
50023 18.20 Exeter – Waterloo Basingstoke – Waterloo 47.75
47531 23.00 Paddington – Bristol TM Paddington – Bristol TM 118.5
Saturday 4th October 1980
37183 01.24 Bristol TM – Milford Haven Bristol TM – Swansea 84
37182 01.24 Bristol TM – Milford Haven Swansea – Carmarthen 31.75
37177 01.24 Bristol TM – Milford Haven Carmarthen – Milford Haven 40
37177 07.30 Milford Haven – Swansea Milford Haven – Swansea 71.75
43022+43139 09.45 Swansea – Paddington Swansea – Reading 154.75
47089 or 50008 11.50 Paddington – Birmingham NS Reading – Oxford 27.5
47122 11.40 Worcester Shrub Hill – Paddington Oxford – Reading 27.5
47102 12.55 Paddington – Worcester Shrub Hill Reading – Oxford 27.5
31416 11.22 Liverpool – Paddington Oxford – Reading 27.5
47089 or 50008 15.00 Paddington – Oxford Reading – Oxford 27.5
47492 14.38 Birmingham NS – Paddington Oxford – Paddington 63.5
45150 18.12 St. Pancras – Derby St. Pancras – Bedford 49.75
Notes:
Looking at Phil’s haulages between Reading and Oxford and vice versa, again there is some matching up to do.
Dealing with Reading – Oxford, I have 47089, 47102 and 50008. 47102 is listed on Railgen Archive for 1B78 12.55 Paddington – Worcester Shrub Hill.
Dealing with Oxford – Reading, I have 31416 and 47122. 31416 is listed on Railgen Archive for 1V41 11.22 Liverpool – Paddington from Birmingham NS, and 47122 is listed for 1A51 11.40 Worcester Shrub Hill – Paddington. These match with Phil’s moves.
Tuesday 14th October 1980
45149 06.08 Sheffield – St. Pancras Bedford – St. Pancras 49.75
50002 10.00 Paddington – Worcester Shrub Hill Paddington – Reading 36
47421 or 50043 09.20 Brighton – Manchester Reading – Oxford 27.5
47471 or 47513 08.22 Liverpool – Paddington Oxford – Reading
(At least 10 late) 27.5
47054 11.50 Paddington – Birmingham NS Reading – Oxford 27.5
47013 07.52 Newcastle / 09.08 Leeds – Poole Oxford – Reading 27.5
47421 or 50043 15.00 Paddington – Hereford Reading – Oxford 27.5
47471 or 47513 14.38 Birmingham NS – Paddington Oxford – Reading 27.5
50002 16.30 Oxford – Paddington Reading – Paddington 36
45146 17.54 St. Pancras – Bedford St. Pancras – Bedford 49.75
Notes:
Looking at Phil’s haulages between Reading and Oxford and vice versa, again there is some matching up to do.
Dealing with Reading – Oxford, I have 47054, 47421 and 50043. 47054 is shown on Railgen-Archive for 1M13 11.50 Paddington – Birmingham NS. No information on the other two, but probably likely 47421 was on the 09.20 ex Brighton and 50043 on the 15.00 ex Paddington.
Dealing with Oxford – Reading, I have 47013 and 47471 and 47513. 47013 is shown on Railgen-Archive for 1O19 07.52 Newcastle – Poole from Birmingham NS – Reading, Regarding 47471, it is on Railgen-Archive for 1M01 19.00 Paddington – Manchester so reasonable that it worked in to Paddington on the 14.38 ex Birmingham NS. Also 47513 is shown for 1M10 06.20 Paddington – Manchester to Birmingham NS, so again reasonable that it returned with the 08.22 Liverpool – Paddington from Birmingham NS.
Monday 10th November 1980
45143 06.08 Sheffield – St. Pancras Bedford – St. Pancras 49.75
50036 10.00 Paddington – Worcester Shrub Hill Paddington – Reading 36
47464 or 47545 or 50010 09.20 Brighton – Manchester Reading – Oxford 27.5
47547 or 50034 11.40 Worcester Shrub Hill – Paddington Oxford – Reading 27.5
47477 12.55 Paddington – Worcester Shrub Hill Reading – Oxford 27.5
47080 11.22 Liverpool – Paddington Oxford – Reading 27.5
47464 or 47545 or 50010 15.00 Paddington – Hereford Reading – Oxford 27.5
47547 or 50034 14.38 Birmingham NS – Paddington Oxford – Reading 27.5
47464 or 47545 or 50010 14.55 Bournemouth – Liverpool Reading – Oxford 27.5
47477 16.03 Worcester Shrub Hill – Paddington Oxford – Paddington 63.5
45132 19.14 St. Pancras – Derby St. Pancras – Bedford 49.75
Notes:
Reading – Oxford, yet again.
Dealing with Reading – Oxford, I have 47464, 47477, 47545 & 50010. 47477 is shown on Railgen-Archive for 1B78 12.55 Paddington – Worcester Shrub Hill and Phil also had on its return working, 1A51 16.03 Worcester Shrub Hill – Paddington. Regarding the other northbound services, 47545 is shown for 1O19 07.52 Newcastle – Poole from Birmingham NS – Reading, I suspect Phil had it back north on 1M23 14.55 Bournemouth – Liverpool. This would leave 47464 for 1M50 09.20 Brighton – Manchester. Despite 47464 being a Scottish loco we know it was in the area as it is shown for 1M01 19.00 Paddington – Manchester as far as Birmingham NS.
Dealing with Oxford – Reading, I have 47080 and 47547 and 50034. 47080 is shown on Railgen-Archive for 1V41 11.22 Liverpool – Paddington from Birmingham NS. 47545 is shown for 1O19 07.52 Newcastle – Poole from Birmingham NS – Reading, I suspect Phil had it back north on 1M23 14.55 Bournemouth – Liverpool.
I have a problem with the class 50’s listed. I suspect Phil may have them listed the wrong way round, Railgen-Archive shows 50010 on 1A51 11.40 Worcester Shrub Hill – Paddington, a train Phil caught that day but Phil has 50010 listed for haulage from Reading to Oxford. 50034 is listed on Railgen-Archive for 1A65 07.26 Cheltenham – Paddington, due Paddington 09.42, which doesn’t really fit with Phil’s notes of it working either 1A51 11.40 ex Worcester or 1V48 14.38 ex Birmingham.
My suspicions are:
No.1 Phil had 50010 on 1A51 11.40 Worcester Shrub Hill – Paddington.
No.2 Phil actually had 50034 Reading – Oxford rather than was listed, and that it probably was on 1C40 15.00 Paddington – Hereford.
No.3 With the 50’s known/presumed, 47547 is by a process of elimination the loco on 1V48 14.38 Birmingham NS – Paddington.
Having said all this about 50010 and 50034, I have assumed that the information on Rail-Gen Archive is correct.
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